Friday, September 30, 2005

Shonky Coding or Markuping

As some of you may know I've been working on my template.
You see, I want to add many more things to my sidebar, but alas, I have only one sidebar with little room left in it. So I want another one.
At the moment, the third column keeps coming at the bottom right of the second column, the one to its left. Be it another sidebar or the main content. I've tried both ways.
(I don't want to go the table route, but I may have to.)
If anyone has seen a good template for that, please let me know.

I've been waiting for quite a while to use the word shonky. I believe it's Australian in origin. I've learnt it from Lee who challenged me to use it in a post of my own. So here it is and I hope I used it right...

From freesearch
of low quality

(Now I'm going to find out how to my shame I was the only one who had to look shonky up.)

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Pat Kirby said...

"Shonky" I like it. No doubt much more polite than the f-bomb I usually drop with confronted with computer problems.

If possible, I usually do the old, "show source" thing on web pages/blogs I like and borrow from there. If if some of the settings are buried in style sheets I'm out of luck.

Most of my shonkyness has been due to not allowing for the page things end up stacked on top of each other. Firefox seems to be pickier about clean html, while IE is fussier about everything fitting on the page. ?

Melly said...

Isn't shonky cool?
(At this moment I made it the uncoolest word, oh well...)

Yeah, I do the view source thing as well, but I've either found tables or hidden style sheets.

I really should try Firefox. Everybody's saying it's better. Lazy, I'm just lazy.

Pat Kirby said...

I think it's the former help desk thing cropping up, but my brain wandered back to your quandry.

I don't know if this is what you mean, but Guanbancex Blog has a three column thing going on with a cute layout. I get the impression Dorna's a pretty nice person, so maybe she could point you in the right direction. Her blog is on Blogger too.

Melly said...

Pat, thanks for that. I've already looked and I think I know the secret...
If not, I'll ask her.

Gina said...

I got mine from (while I've done web design in the past I just don't have the time with two kids!!!)


Lee Carlon said...

Hi melly,

I'd never actually considered where Shonky came from, but you seem to have worked it into your vocab quite nicely.

Doesn't blogger have a couple of three column templates?

Melly said...

Gina, I know. I will get Firefox. Promise. :)
And thanks, I looked at the site, they do have two three column tempaltes, but using tables.

And no, Lee, blogger doesn't have three column templates. Very annoying. But Pat's advice to look at that blog she mentioned might be working out. (I'm experimenting on another blog).

Erin said...

Here's a blog that has some cool templates, some 3 column ones too.

Or one to (please god change the colors first!) borrow: Ailment

Or maybe this one

Or, maybe just get some tips and info here

Hope that helps you fix that shonkiness! ;)

Melly said...

Oh, wow Erin. Thank you so much.
Some of this stuff looks awesome.

Promise to change aweful colours.

Karen Lee Field said...

You've used this here (and elsewhere) and I found myself using it too in an email. I thought of you as I typed it. :)

Melly said...

Karen, you thought of me? Blush. :)

I think of you too. (See the post after this one, and there will be another post soon where your name will come up :)

elcapitanhink said...

Three column layouts are a dusey, especially when you do the layout all liquid-like. It's hard enough juggling one parallel float, but two -- its just a real shonking mess. :)

elcapitanhink said...

" Firefox seems to be pickier about clean html, while IE is fussier about everything fitting on the page. ?"

Yep. The thign with IE is not that its fussy about anything, but rather it was coded by aedgits who decided that padding and margins are superfluous things, and need not figure into any particular page design.

If you need any CSS help, including ways to make IE behave, let me know. :)

Melly said...

Thanks Josh. Much appreciated. I might just do that :)
Do you think a table would work best?

elcapitanhink said...

Oye, no tables! :) If you really want to dive in there, here's a tutorial on how to do it right. The learning curve for CSS can seem steep, but its not that bad. Hell, I learned it by fiddling, so it can't be that difficult.

Melly said...

Creating Liquid Layouts with Negative Margins - it sounds so... so...
Goodness, it sounds scary!

Thanks, Josh. I'll take a look or bug every once in a while if you don't mind...