tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post113465964547701525..comments2023-10-08T07:21:56.107-04:00Comments on All Kinds of Writing: Marketing and SalesMellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1135742058034685212005-12-27T22:54:00.000-05:002005-12-27T22:54:00.000-05:00You're right, Steven, I should have definitely pai...You're right, Steven, I should have definitely paid closer attention as to what utility company he represents and complain, but I was too... don't know what... nice? Perhaps.<BR/>I'll try to remember your way of handling it for next time though, thanks :)<BR/><BR/>Oh, and don't get me wrong. Toronto can be everything. It has these old type neighborhoods like the one I live in, really bustling neighborhoods, regualr suburbia too, as well as slums, projects, and raunchy parts. Just like any other metropolitan I guess.Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1135695107081356072005-12-27T09:51:00.000-05:002005-12-27T09:51:00.000-05:00I want to live where you live! It sounded like the...I want to live where you live! It sounded like the neighborhood I lived in when I was growing up. Door to door sales do not happen where I live now. Grass does not grow. Traffic flows. Door locks click. People pass each other with downcast eyes. The person with the biggest house surrounded by concrete wins. That is the silent competition that happens here. It is not one I want to be a part of, but I'm here. I had to go to the "big city" to get a job. Everything costs something and help is given only if there will be a good return. <BR/><BR/>I might be a tad cyncial. Your salesman definitely made me think thief. My words to him would have been less kind. My fingers would have dialed 91 and the last 1 would be soon to follow as I asked for the last time for him to leave. I would have memorized his company and called the police as soon as he left. If he was from the utility company, I'd have a great story and this practice would end (for a moment anyway). <BR/><BR/>Marketing doesn't have to be deceptive . Seth Godin is a great source for smart and effective marketing.Not Importanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531624126920722824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1135006686675989072005-12-19T10:38:00.000-05:002005-12-19T10:38:00.000-05:00Indeed they do, don't they? :)Indeed they do, don't they? :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134863803957674742005-12-17T18:56:00.000-05:002005-12-17T18:56:00.000-05:00They say there are strong links between Canada and...They say there are strong links between Canada and Scotland :-).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134857304471649192005-12-17T17:08:00.000-05:002005-12-17T17:08:00.000-05:00Diddums, sounds pretty much like the same salesper...Diddums, sounds pretty much like the same salesperson. Did he have a Canadian slurred accent??? :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134855633923030652005-12-17T16:40:00.000-05:002005-12-17T16:40:00.000-05:00I had a similar experience here in Scotland. It wa...I had a similar experience here in Scotland. It was an electricity or gas salesman who wanted me to switch from my current provider. He said he wanted to see my bills so he could tell me how much I could save. I said if he left me an application form and some information, I could work it out for myself and apply in my own time (if I decided to). He wouldn't allow it, and insisted on coming in, seeing my bills so he could write out an application for me pronto. I could cancel it if I changed my mind. "Goodbye" I said. Even as I was closing the door, he shouted at me "you will lose a lot of money, you know." I shrugged, as though to say "maybe so - but that's my lookout, not yours." There was an aura of desperation from that guy - really hoped to make his sale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134835932502007312005-12-17T11:12:00.000-05:002005-12-17T11:12:00.000-05:00Scot, I love smaller cities too. Toronto, being o...Scot, I love smaller cities too. Toronto, being one of the larger cities in N.America, is far too big for me. But even big cities have smaller neighborhoods, so that's my saving grace.<BR/><BR/>It's funny but after all that talk about opening the door, yesterday I was expecting friends and I was busy cooking when I heard knocks on the door. I shouted 'it's open' but the knocks continued so I ran to the door and opened it without checking. It was just a neighbour bringing me mail that was accidentally put in her mail box, but I was so startled to see her I nearly screamed.Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134767483415516832005-12-16T16:11:00.000-05:002005-12-16T16:11:00.000-05:00redchurch, it's nice to hear that there's another ...redchurch, it's nice to hear that there's another side to marketing and sales because, alas, this is not the side the public usually sees.<BR/>But if there is a nicer side I'm very to hear it.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I hope you didn't take it as a personal attack on _all_ sales and marketing people. Then I would pretty much have to divorce myself having worked so much in sales and all... :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134751470653527892005-12-16T11:44:00.000-05:002005-12-16T11:44:00.000-05:00Wow, Deborah. Okay, I totally understand you now....Wow, Deborah. Okay, I totally understand you now.<BR/><BR/>What was most interesting until now in this discussion though was that I found how different Canadians and Americans are. While Paul (Canadian) never doubted what I was telling, the rest of you (Americans) were sure I was naive to think the guy was an actual salesperson. Interesting, don't you think?Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134751099018972432005-12-16T11:38:00.000-05:002005-12-16T11:38:00.000-05:00Pat, I'm 100% ceratin it wasn't a scam to get into...Pat, I'm 100% ceratin it wasn't a scam to get into my home. That's what so annoying about this. It was a low-level strategy for sales, very low-level - scare tactic.<BR/><BR/>It was only when I heard the knocks that I was startled, but even then I wasn't scared for me. I was afraid something had happened.<BR/><BR/>And I would like to think that as long as people are nice to me, I'm nice back :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134750275602297402005-12-16T11:24:00.000-05:002005-12-16T11:24:00.000-05:00rdl, oh, I wasn't afraid he was going to rob me, I...rdl, oh, I wasn't afraid he was going to rob me, I was just mad at myself for getting dupped into his scare tactics.<BR/>Thanks for worrying :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134749730871189902005-12-16T11:15:00.000-05:002005-12-16T11:15:00.000-05:00"What changed that you cannot allow your kids to w..."What changed that you cannot allow your kids to walk to school? Distance, your own fear or people?"<BR/><BR/>We have about 25,000 registered sex offenders in our county alone. Kids have been followed home by strange guys. Then there is the traffic issue. People drive so crazy around the schools that I'm surprised nobody has been run over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134749316102010982005-12-16T11:08:00.000-05:002005-12-16T11:08:00.000-05:00Ew. Creepy. Here in the Alb area, there have bee...Ew. Creepy. Here in the Alb area, there have been people using that sort of scam to get in houses and rob them.<BR/><BR/>I never answer the door. My opinion of door-to-door salesmen and telemarketers is the same. I didn't ask you to call me, trespass on my property; I don't have to be polite or even acknowledge you.<BR/><BR/>OTOH, I'm very nice to salespeople when I actually got to a store.Pat Kirbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13412454476874666367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134748743027039902005-12-16T10:59:00.000-05:002005-12-16T10:59:00.000-05:00I love the sound of your neighborhood and I'm just...I love the sound of your neighborhood and I'm just glad you didn't open the door. Times like these I'm glad I have my ferocious sounding dog.rdlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062856086277201874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134746271623206382005-12-16T10:17:00.000-05:002005-12-16T10:17:00.000-05:00Paul, yes sir!I will never ever give anyone my acc...Paul, yes sir!<BR/>I will never ever give anyone my account number ;)<BR/><BR/>But no, I din't know that. I knew that the phone company can charge me for all kinds of services I didn't ask for simply by putting a negative option, which was now outlawed, but I didn't know about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134746138585281962005-12-16T10:15:00.000-05:002005-12-16T10:15:00.000-05:00Dalesholes, I love that Deborah, LOL!What changed ...Dalesholes, I love that Deborah, LOL!<BR/><BR/>What changed that you cannot allow your kids to walk to school? Distance, your own fear or people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134738985041767992005-12-16T08:16:00.000-05:002005-12-16T08:16:00.000-05:00And did you know that if this person had gotten yo...And did you know that if this person had gotten your account number (this is their little game) - they can change you over to their service on your behalf without you even knowing - until you get your next gas bill of course.<BR/><BR/>Never, ever, ever give somebody your hydro, phone, gas, anything, account number for that very reason.PaulDarcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15722063290961887153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134701407326343952005-12-15T21:50:00.000-05:002005-12-15T21:50:00.000-05:00P.S. We get the occasional door-to-door salesman, ...P.S. We get the occasional door-to-door salesman, but most of the time they like to annoy us with the phone. My husband calls them Salesholes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134701285413794212005-12-15T21:48:00.000-05:002005-12-15T21:48:00.000-05:00I grew up in a neighborhood like yours. It's too b...I grew up in a neighborhood like yours. It's too bad we can't allow our kids to walk to school anymore or keep our windows open on those really hot days. I'm envious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134691514309955912005-12-15T19:05:00.000-05:002005-12-15T19:05:00.000-05:00Oh, he was legit alright. I saw him going from ho...Oh, he was legit alright. I saw him going from house to house in our block.<BR/>And I already had guys like that coming from "a" gas company so they do do that around here.<BR/>But yes, caution should always be exercised (even if I do leave the doors wide open in the summer time :)Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134690409020737802005-12-15T18:46:00.000-05:002005-12-15T18:46:00.000-05:00Maybe I'm too skeptical, but I'd be willing to bet...Maybe I'm too skeptical, but I'd be willing to bet he didn't represent a real gas company. That sounded like a scam to get into your house and either rob you or worse. Continue to be cautious.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01805501348812702651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12725467.post-1134684356562050502005-12-15T17:05:00.000-05:002005-12-15T17:05:00.000-05:001)Carter, that's funny. I didn't even think about...1)Carter, that's funny. I didn't even think about that.<BR/>2)Maybe they never had any scruples, but don't you feel it's all becoming more and more invasive?<BR/>3)Yeah, I'm a total b*tch and hang up too.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, I think it's one of the only neighborhoods left like that in TO.Mellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461471128865537538noreply@blogger.com